If you are an adult and excited to see Twilight you are an idiot
(Today I got into a little tiff with a few friends on Facebook when they were posting how excited they were to see the new Twilight movie. I basically feel that if you are over the age of 20 and are getting excited about seeing Twilight you are an idiot. People got upset, things were said, and deletions were immaturely made. So I invited one of the pro Twilight people to come here and state her case in a point/counter point style.)
The Pro-Twilight Argument from Nina
Forbidden Vampire love how unoriginal
So, there’s this big debate going on amongst my friends on Facebook. People are defending their love for the Twilight series and others, most of whom admit to not having read the books, are pondering why grown ass women are swooning for the movie. One said that she was going to risk the wrath of a bunch of women to point out that she found the book cheesy.
What’s wrong with cheese?
Since when was it law that once you become an adult you can no longer participate in adolescent things. Ok, so there’s the whole sex with minors thing but, besides that? I was the first to admit that Twilight would never be considered particularly great writing or high intellect reading. But it was a decent story told well. It tapped into that stomach fluttering experience known as first love. And if you dig vampire stories, and I do, then the rest was a bonus.
Just because you’re an adult doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate certain things. That you don’t feel the need to experience certain emotions again. Should I never watch The Wizard of Oz or Willy Wonka again? Just because you read and happened to enjoy the Twilight series as an adult, doesn’t make you stupid. That’s just as bad as assuming that anyone who professes, “I only read non-fiction” lacks imagination. Or anyone that watches a lot of television doesn’t read as well.
Taste is subjective. The same person who hails Twilight as cheesy might have tacky ass curtains hanging in their living room or still rocks the fannypack. Who cares? There are plenty of adults reading intellectually stimulating history, non-fiction, etc., books that are douche drippings.
I will say that I draw the line at grown ass women with children sleeping outside for movie tickets or chasing the young male actors through a mall. And women with children have no business sitting in a movie theater at 1am getting their “Cullen” on.
I don’t think anyone reading this can claim to have the most intellectually stimulating book, movie, or CD collection. There’s a little fluff in all our lives. A little cheese.
And that’s not a bad thing.
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The Anti-Twilight Argument from Me
Before I start out I want to make it clear that you if are a teenager/tween and are excited to go see Twilight more power to you. Enjoy it, have a great time, you will eventually grow past this stage in your life and look back at your pop culture choices with disappointment. We all do it… It is part of growing up. (I owned a Vanilla Ice CD…)
However if you are an adult shame on you, you have the IQ of a squeezable ketchup bottle and deserve to have a car battery shocking your testicles or ovaries. By supporting a lame book that is the literary equivalent of High School Musical 3 and a movie that looks like a low-grade snuff film maker shot it you allow these crappy trends to continue.
Kristen Stewart couldn't hold her lipstick
The cultural production geared towards teens is at an all time low. Millennials are having the worst shit ever produced for their age group. Worse than any other time except for the late 70s/early 80s. Everything is prepackaged, targeted for a certain market, and will have zero lasting cultural impact. Unlike other eras that brought us Elvis, the Beatles, John Hughes movies, rap, and Molly Ringwald, there is nothing lasting that is being produced today. The fact that adults are buying these items and lining up for midnight shows of a movie that has a 44 rating on Rotten Tomatoes is sad to me.
There is nothing wrong with liking cheesy shit. Soap operas, reality television, romance novels, NASCAR, anything written by Dan Brown, and the music of anyone ever associated with the band Creed all can be justified on some level. Cheesy crap meant for adults… It is all good. Watching classic movies that bond you with your childhood like ET and the Wizard of Oz or reading books like Bunnicula is understandable. They are timeless classics with wide appeal. But when adults fall for cheesy shit designed to tug on the heartstrings of a 14 year old tween girl I lose faith in humanity. Why not just go buy a Jonas Brothers Album and watch Gossip Girl while waiting for your phone to ring and someone to acknowledge your empty existence.
Now excuse me while I go and sit down to watch the entire “Charles in Charge” series box set.
BTW, you shouldn’t brag about reading Harry Potter either.
Twilight… pure shit or just tween shit?
Twilight is disgusting, simple as that. I don’t even think teenagers should like it, and this is coming from a 14 year old. It’s horrible. It’s not well-written, it is not good story-telling, and the way the fans and even the way the author acts makes me want to kill babies. It’s utterly awful, and I felt this way before it got popular, and I have read it. Not the whole series, but from what I hear, it only gets worse after the first book. I immediately lose respect for people who tell me they enjoyed it.
The Gods of literature wept when this book hit the stores.
Did you REALLY put Elvis Presley and Molly Ringwald in the same category?
ROFL
Wow.
WHY are you people even letting these “haters” get to you? They aren’t going to stop ANYONE from liking Twilight. They are miserable, old fucks who think that Stephen King actually writes good books. I mean, Carrie? Come on? Stephen King is OVERFUCKINGRATED. Stop letting them get to you. TWILIGHT FUCKING OWNS.
KTHANKS.
Yes, an author who has made such a wide spread contribution to the science fiction/horror/fantasy genre that it’s impossible to say where his influence ends is overrated because he called your favorite author/book crap. I’m pretty sure those “miserable old fucks” don’t think Stephen King writes good books, they know Stephen King writes good books (I’ll give you that Carrie may not be everyone’s favorite but blasting his entire work kinda has the opposite effect of removing you and all your future generations). Not only does he write good books, he didn’t need the massive marketing machines of today to validate the quality of his work/fill the void where quality should be (in twilight’s case).
I’m pretty sure this girl has a youtube channel all about pissing herself over Twilight. She made the exact same argument that this one is making. In fact, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDQ2h4hrors&feature=channel
Stephen King would break you with his mind
i agree that this book is not good at all… but if you dont care and think it is shit, why do u bother writing about how much u hate it? dont get me wrong, i agree with u, but y waste time on something you dont even care about?
twilight fucking sucks the only thing it’s good for is…waaaiiit a second… why yes I do believe it is nothing.The buyers/fans of this failure are pretty much all made up of twelve year old girls who wet their pants over the thought of a pretty boy who would doubtlessly jump at the chance to get some of that prepubescent ass…not to mention is a hundred and eight year old fucking virgin. Take a look at some *real* vampires like lestat and the original dracula they aren’t a bunch of whiny emo bitches who like to fuck equally brain damaged high schoolers. Vampires have fangs. Vampires suck blood from and kill humans. Vampires die in the sunlight THEY DON’T FUCKING SPARKLE.
Shit man, Bobby sorry dude I’m back. I was just reading your things I like list. I only got as far as one and realised your a freak. Gas/petrol? fucking issues there. Binders? at no. 2? Seriously Bobby, Freaky. “The Bunnicula series- This was one of my favorite series of books as a kid. It is a story that is told from the family dogs perspective about a vampire rabbit.” Shit no wonder you don’t like Twilight, you didn’t get to meet the Cullen’s pet rabit. Oh poor Bobby, let down your dream didn’t it? Seriously, any one else but Bobby, don’t listen to this guy he’s a freak.
i don’t think twilight suck..!
i think twilight is great n shouldn’t tell bad things about it anyway i love twilight n nobody can stop me frm liking it!!!
well at last i want to tell 4 all twilight haters that i m only 13 years old but also i think it rocks..!!![no offence 2 anyone]
SOME OF U GUYS ARE FUCKIN ANNOYING!!!
LOVE TWILIGHT NO MATTER WHAT
“no matter what” ?
See this is what pisses me off, it’s not a no matter what scenario, you should like something because of its own merit, not because of your whatever bias reason you’ve chosen.
Are you saying you’d still “OMGLOVELIKETOTALLYALLTHEWAY” love the series if it turned out Bella was a guy, or that the whathisname vampire was into anal or something along the likes of that?
I honestly don’t understand how anyone can enjoy something so poorly written, let alone “no matter what”
Hell, I might even be down with it if there were some vampire hookers and pimps and…what the hell, Bella has a cock is OK too. THAT’S writing folks.
As it is? Sorry. It ranks right down there with “Crossroads” and “Failure To Launch”.
Simple fact is Twilight is available. You like, hate it, or just don’t care… doesn’t matter.
I believe Stephanie Meyer has a talent for telling a story. Does that make her an excellent authour? absolutely not. Does that mean you can not enjoy a story written by a new authour? No.
I am 30 years old, have an extremely high IQ and carried a 4.0 all through high school and college. Did I enjoy the Twilight series? I would like to say no, the writing was a bit choppy. However; I found Meyers story telling to be catchy. As much as I hate to admit it, I liked the series. The sad thing is the ignorance on both sides of this fight. Why use nasty language, and resort to name calling. In my experience those who do typically are insecure with themselves. Using curse words to emphasize what they are saying to get attention. The truth is these books are fictional, and no one has a right to determine whether or not they are worth reading except the reader themselves.
Really? I mean I wouldn’t let someone read something if it was bad writing, we have editors and proofreaders and things to ensure stuff makes sense, hell countries even ban books for different reasons. The point is these “fans” just take the whole fandom thing too seriously and ignore whether the books are actually good or not.
If they publish another twilight book most of their fans will run to the store, buy it and read it, and no matter now incredibly bad it turns out to be, love it. People just don’t think anymore.
Hmmm… “Bobby”, go eat shit and die.
Americans are stupid, you don’t even have your own language losers. By the way Stephenie Meyers American, She’s stupid, your stupid, the books stupid, the films stupid. But hey we could geuss that coming from America. LOSERS
“nobody gives a shit about what you have to say. Thanks for cutting into the top with your shitty comments you worthless twat.”
Well an important lesson for us all here, mini-Hitler likes forcing his views on all of us. “Any adults who like twilight should be put in the death chambers” I think that’s a bit strong, but hey, that’s what u sound like, maybe before u give your overly opinionated outlook on anything else u should realise there will always be people who don’t like what u say and there’ll always be a bigger fish. In this case I’d say the million or so twilight fans who u would not dare get up in front of and personally air your views in front of. You like your swollen ego to be nursed behind your computer screen because that’s what makes you think you matter in this world. When u realise u are just as insignificant as me, or anyone i can imagine u slitting ur throat due to rejection. Sad really, perhaps you’ll suffer an Oedipus complex and kill ur dad so u can shag your mum. Perhaps because your such the literature genius you have another Greek tragedy-inspired literary come back to that? I doubt you know what Oedipus is you little child, perhaps now you are starting to feel that insignificance creeping in, excluding you or then again you could be on a search engine frantically looking for Oedipus and “insignificance”. After all this website is called pointless banter and i’d like you to remember that all I’m giving now, is pointless banter. Your banter is pointless, any other banter you may have, is pointless, and most of the banter here is pointless. And, finally for you contemplation, banter regards only the lighthearted in this context because your wit matches that of a small child, alone on the computer, who thinks everyone even cares about the individuals opinion. Just for your contemplation. P.S i don’t even like twilight but you sound worse. Guten tag mein herr!
bobby seriously?
bobby, did u know your mums in twilight? she’s the one they had as robert pattisons ass cleaner. EVERY TIME he pooed, your mum was there cleaning it up, with her tongue. And then bringing it home for food for the family. Sweet little sister bobby, brother bobby, mother bobby and papa bobby, all around the table shovelling shit.
I was going to get onto your gran but i don’t want to make you cry, chin up bob.
I think the problem is just American’s. You can’t just think something’s o.k can you? You just have to love or hate something. It’s a shame really, if you weren’t so convinced of the superiority of YOURSELVES you’d see your arguing over opinions. Opinions; let that reflect upon yourselves now, opinions. What are you all nazi’s? I know Edward was never a Jew but fuck, he gets treated like one doesn’t he? Maybe you should think Bobby and other Pointless Banterians, this is POINTLESS BANTER. COMPLETELY POINTLESS. YES I AM WRITING IN CAPS BEAUSE YOU ARE ALL DUMB.
Really, I would love to see a few Nobel prize laureate’s give an in-depth analysis on Twilight. Perhaps maybe contrast it with Stephen King’s books. Then, I would listen to the opinions they have. Perhaps if any of you were educated your opinions would be rational, objective and precise. But no. I do enjoy the fact that google’s predictive search will find Stephanie Meyer before Stephen King, makes you wonder where the online interest lies. Perhaps that’s why S.K was so pissed, the ratings have probably been down.
Why hasn’t anyone referenced Harry Potter either? Child’s book, written by a woman, characters drawn from imagination? Why is it that one is loved all over and a far more popular film with all the ages (H.P), and the other is slated abound everywhere? Could be because of the British element? Probably not though. It’s probably because Twilight is aimed at a female teen audience. Not much scope for marketing then. Harry Potter has appealed to everyone, probably due to the large amount of books, films, characters, themes, etc.
Now considering that Twilight was aimed for girls, I am worried about Bobby that he takes the book serious enough to get so worked up over it. I like his “eat shit and die” comment. How grown up Bobby, You’ll definitely make it in the world telling those who disagree with you that, won’t you? Perhaps in the Third Reich anyhow. But hey if your Mum’s surname’s Braun then who am I to argue with an authoritarian and totalitarian cocksucker? Slash that, even without the surname your still a cocksucker for being a giant girl. Caring enough to tell us your opinion on a book, that you hate, on a website that is completely pointless?
Just to put out there, we all know S.M work is not the best written, but are prepubescent teens the best readers? Do we compile our English Dictionary’s on the prattling’s of little girls? No, so why does it matter then? It doesn’t. No one is saying Twilight is great literature Bobby, just a good book. Maybe if you stopped worrying about when your period was going to show up and realised you were a boy you find better things to do (have done) with your time. In case you want to write back to this I’d be greatly appreciative because my summer hols are going to be long, i need something like you Bobby, it makes me feel so much better about myself to just rant at you all day. But hey, that’s just how you feel to shit your opinions on here.
Twilight sucks so bad it should never of been written
my cousins got really angry when i told them we were having a bombfire and i told them to bring their twilight stuff when they asked why they should bring it i told them i need some trash to burn
lol
we burnt a couple of books we bought for the sake of burning them
What if ur an adult that reads it, likes it, respects it but doesn’t obessess over it?
Twilight is beautifull
i like it
and the books are great and so romantic
why are you saying its stupid?
you’re stupid
I HATE TWILIGHT HATERS!!
Ha Ha Ha…. You SUCK!!!
I understand why people hate the film/book. It gets attention that it really doesn’t deserve. I’m not telling anyone not to like it but there’s too much hype about this movie<< it just goes to show the kind of society we live in today. I believe this is the kinda thing where it's here today gone tomorrow, but good movies will be remembered forever.
Don’t get me started on that film! I kept hearing good reviews, so I rented it. To say it was shit is an understatement. I would rather spend a Saturday night locked in the bathroom with my da, then have to sit through that wank again. If you are over 20 and enjoy the film, you have special needs.
jacqueline… because you are partially retarded and don’t understand pop culture my picture is the coach from teen wolf same with my name. I am way younger. You dumb cunt understand pop culture before you try and talk about it.
As far as the four minutes… it was on a saturday afternoon when I was doing work… It keeps the conversation going and gets more traffic when you do that. But then again you wouldn’t know because nobody gives a shit about what you have to say. Thanks for cutting into the top with your shitty comments you worthless twat.
Bobby. Are you really a grown up? And actual adult? Because, brother, your mouth is disgusting. So you don’t like Twilight. Big. fat hairy deal. Who actually cares what you think? And who are you, anyway?
Rita look at the amount of comments and votes it got on social media sites…. Apparently a lot of people care what I have to say.
I am the guy that tells you that you have shit taste in pop culture.
I love what you have to say
:B