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	<title>Comments on: If You Have a Second Life You May Want to Consider Getting a First One</title>
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		<title>By: typical one-sided commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>typical one-sided commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every article I've ever read about Second Life that portrays it negatively thus far have had one thing in common:

ALL of them focused on sex.

Every. Single. One.

Perhaps if you could shift your focus away from your penis, you might find a thing or two to appreciate about SL.

There are a lot of talented musicians who are performing "live" in SL that I would never have heard of otherwise.  I'm able to do things with SL machinima that simply wouldn't be possible with my real life videocamera unless I happened to be a Hollywood director with a special effects outlet like ILM at my disposal.  There are lots of real life artists who have set up virtual galleries, yet another set of people that I would never have learnt about were it not for SL.  And then you have the artists who are exploiting SL and using it to express themselves in ways that unique to the virtual environment and they could not possibly accomplish otherwise.

There's so much more to SL than just digital wanking, folks.  Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every article I&#8217;ve ever read about Second Life that portrays it negatively thus far have had one thing in common:</p>
<p>ALL of them focused on sex.</p>
<p>Every. Single. One.</p>
<p>Perhaps if you could shift your focus away from your penis, you might find a thing or two to appreciate about SL.</p>
<p>There are a lot of talented musicians who are performing &#8220;live&#8221; in SL that I would never have heard of otherwise.  I&#8217;m able to do things with SL machinima that simply wouldn&#8217;t be possible with my real life videocamera unless I happened to be a Hollywood director with a special effects outlet like ILM at my disposal.  There are lots of real life artists who have set up virtual galleries, yet another set of people that I would never have learnt about were it not for SL.  And then you have the artists who are exploiting SL and using it to express themselves in ways that unique to the virtual environment and they could not possibly accomplish otherwise.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s so much more to SL than just digital wanking, folks.  Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won't deny that the technology is revolutionary but the site is still a flat out waste of time. The stats show that the usage for second life isn't there compared to other social networks.

The TECHNOLOGY of second life might be a base for something larger in the future but right now it is just the SIMS on steroids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t deny that the technology is revolutionary but the site is still a flat out waste of time. The stats show that the usage for second life isn&#8217;t there compared to other social networks.</p>
<p>The TECHNOLOGY of second life might be a base for something larger in the future but right now it is just the SIMS on steroids.</p>
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		<title>By: csven</title>
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		<dc:creator>csven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin - "&lt;i&gt;While the technology of second life impresses me the use of it does not, it is a niche site for people with too much time on their hands.&lt;/i&gt;"

My father says that about the internet; "for people who got nothing better to do than waste time". He wouldn't even understand what "social media" is, but he might say it was stupid and for people who didn't know how to do &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; work for a living.

@Steve - "&lt;i&gt;Are you fucking kidding me? Please tell me youâ€™re joking&lt;/i&gt;.

No. I'm not. And neither are the corporations investing in this technology.

"&lt;i&gt;That video was dumb as hell. Second Life is LAME and so are the people who use it. PERIOD.&lt;/i&gt;"

In the early 90's people said the same thing - made the same kinds of overreaching declarations - about the World Wide Web. Funny how history repeats.

"&lt;i&gt;And if you start trying to make your avatar appear in the real world then you have serious mental problems.&lt;/i&gt;"

I'd suggest you talk with the people at Cisco ( http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=csco ); get them some mental health treatment. They've been pushing virtual conferences hard this past year. Talking about how it makes more sense to hold virtual conference meetings with people from various globally-dispersed locations than fly them all over the place. In fact, there's a story about it today: &lt;a href="http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/01/christian-renau.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Christian Renaud on Traveling Virtually to Live Eco-Friendly&lt;/a&gt;. 

Personally, as a product developer, I could definitely use a better means of communicating with my overseas clients. And augmented reality technology - coupled with the CAD data I sometimes generate - would speed the process and lower the costs (including the retail prices people pay for goods).

I guess being more efficient and paying less isn't something you want. Well, to each their own.

btw, you all realize that Amazon's engineers are especially interested in this technology (they're often experimenting in Second Life), and that eBay's founder is one of the investors that kept it afloat, yes? Oh wait. No one here &lt;i&gt;uses&lt;/i&gt; Amazon or eBay, do they? That's because buying stuff on the internet is something only fools would do, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin - &#8220;<i>While the technology of second life impresses me the use of it does not, it is a niche site for people with too much time on their hands.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>My father says that about the internet; &#8220;for people who got nothing better to do than waste time&#8221;. He wouldn&#8217;t even understand what &#8220;social media&#8221; is, but he might say it was stupid and for people who didn&#8217;t know how to do <i>real</i> work for a living.</p>
<p>@Steve - &#8220;<i>Are you fucking kidding me? Please tell me youâ€™re joking</i>.</p>
<p>No. I&#8217;m not. And neither are the corporations investing in this technology.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>That video was dumb as hell. Second Life is LAME and so are the people who use it. PERIOD.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>In the early 90&#8217;s people said the same thing - made the same kinds of overreaching declarations - about the World Wide Web. Funny how history repeats.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>And if you start trying to make your avatar appear in the real world then you have serious mental problems.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest you talk with the people at Cisco ( <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=csco" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=csco</a> ); get them some mental health treatment. They&#8217;ve been pushing virtual conferences hard this past year. Talking about how it makes more sense to hold virtual conference meetings with people from various globally-dispersed locations than fly them all over the place. In fact, there&#8217;s a story about it today: <a href="http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/01/christian-renau.html" rel="nofollow">Christian Renaud on Traveling Virtually to Live Eco-Friendly</a>. </p>
<p>Personally, as a product developer, I could definitely use a better means of communicating with my overseas clients. And augmented reality technology - coupled with the CAD data I sometimes generate - would speed the process and lower the costs (including the retail prices people pay for goods).</p>
<p>I guess being more efficient and paying less isn&#8217;t something you want. Well, to each their own.</p>
<p>btw, you all realize that Amazon&#8217;s engineers are especially interested in this technology (they&#8217;re often experimenting in Second Life), and that eBay&#8217;s founder is one of the investors that kept it afloat, yes? Oh wait. No one here <i>uses</i> Amazon or eBay, do they? That&#8217;s because buying stuff on the internet is something only fools would do, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Tish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess you're not much for web interactivity, programming, technology, and the internet then.

You could say the exact argument about the Internet Period, and I suppose yes I would be making this same argument aswell.

Second Life is the Internet, just animated.

So, I assume you believe all the same about the internet then, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess you&#8217;re not much for web interactivity, programming, technology, and the internet then.</p>
<p>You could say the exact argument about the Internet Period, and I suppose yes I would be making this same argument aswell.</p>
<p>Second Life is the Internet, just animated.</p>
<p>So, I assume you believe all the same about the internet then, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: em em</title>
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		<dc:creator>em em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people that I know that enjoy a few hours a week of video games do not consider themselves "gamers".  The "gamers" I do know, rarely see the light of day when they have the choice (not job related- free time related).  When your activity of preference is to sit inside the house in front of something that is not real in lieu of spending time with real friends and family or actually getting out into the real world, I find that problematic for my particular lifestyle.  Notice I made no judgements, I simply state that I would not be married to a person with those preferences.  For me virtual reality is no subsitute for actual reality.  After having a friend have to kick out the father of her child because of an extreme addiction to World of Warcraft, I feel I've made the right decision.  I have no desire to ever have to compete with a game for a loved one's time, and therefore I won't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people that I know that enjoy a few hours a week of video games do not consider themselves &#8220;gamers&#8221;.  The &#8220;gamers&#8221; I do know, rarely see the light of day when they have the choice (not job related- free time related).  When your activity of preference is to sit inside the house in front of something that is not real in lieu of spending time with real friends and family or actually getting out into the real world, I find that problematic for my particular lifestyle.  Notice I made no judgements, I simply state that I would not be married to a person with those preferences.  For me virtual reality is no subsitute for actual reality.  After having a friend have to kick out the father of her child because of an extreme addiction to World of Warcraft, I feel I&#8217;ve made the right decision.  I have no desire to ever have to compete with a game for a loved one&#8217;s time, and therefore I won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Beckham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic Beckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha. I want to be Weebay. Have you been watching Season 5? I know a good website where you can watch the episodes before they air. I think they have up to episode 7. 

If I learn how this 2nd Life is done, I am seriously going to build a hood in there. We'll have avatars playing craps on the corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha. I want to be Weebay. Have you been watching Season 5? I know a good website where you can watch the episodes before they air. I think they have up to episode 7. </p>
<p>If I learn how this 2nd Life is done, I am seriously going to build a hood in there. We&#8217;ll have avatars playing craps on the corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Douleur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douleur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because those that actually do play it don't want to be harrassed by others that don't look at the whole picture. 

It's not just about sex, I agree. But then again, that's how people pick out the weak spots of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because those that actually do play it don&#8217;t want to be harrassed by others that don&#8217;t look at the whole picture. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just about sex, I agree. But then again, that&#8217;s how people pick out the weak spots of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Douleur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douleur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are those that spend a few hours, one hour or even ten hours "gaming". But generalizing a "gamer" is just a person that "plays and enjoys games". They do live in the "real world" yet enjoy spending a bit of time playing a game. 

Now what about those that actually get paid to "play games" you know...those "gamers". Do they have no "real life?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are those that spend a few hours, one hour or even ten hours &#8220;gaming&#8221;. But generalizing a &#8220;gamer&#8221; is just a person that &#8220;plays and enjoys games&#8221;. They do live in the &#8220;real world&#8221; yet enjoy spending a bit of time playing a game. </p>
<p>Now what about those that actually get paid to &#8220;play games&#8221; you know&#8230;those &#8220;gamers&#8221;. Do they have no &#8220;real life?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you fucking kidding me? Please tell me you're joking. 
That video was dumb as hell. Second Life is LAME and so are the people who use it. PERIOD. 
And if you start trying to make your avatar appear in the real world then you have serious mental problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you fucking kidding me? Please tell me you&#8217;re joking.<br />
That video was dumb as hell. Second Life is LAME and so are the people who use it. PERIOD.<br />
And if you start trying to make your avatar appear in the real world then you have serious mental problems.</p>
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